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Post  bmd Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:31 pm

right, my eyesight aint what it used to be, in the couple of pix i have of billy stratos, 76 galway, etc, the wheels are so dirty i cant make out if theyre the usual gold colour or a brighter yellowish? anyone enlighten me, or did he use several sets of differing colours as often happens?
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Post  sbuckley Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:58 am

My guess would be mostly 1977 Gold wheels or 1978 Yellow wheels (but sometimes both). He was is an Escort in '76! (xpack)
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Post  brian Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:03 am

I have the galway rally dvd where he was in the statos in the snow. Ill take a few screen shots later

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Post  bmd Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:12 am

cheers sean...was he not in the stratos for galway 76? i could of course be talking pants!! lol.... Rolling Eyes  Laughing

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Post  bmd Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:14 am

sean, maybe i should just get as close to the wheels on your avatar pic, that would be the job!! Wink
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Post  sbuckley Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:54 am

bmd wrote:cheers  sean...was he not in the stratos for galway 76? i could of course be talking pants!! lol.... Rolling Eyes  Laughing

brian cheers m8 appreciated... Smile

I'm fairly sure his first event in the Stratos was the '76 Ulster and I'm certain he won both Galway and the Circuit in '76 in the ex. Roger Clark monte xpack Escort KHK 983N.

I think my avatar wheels are a little too yellow!

If your pics have No. 1 on the door and Henley Forklift on front they're from 1977 and more than likely gold wheels. If they have No. 5 on the door they're from 1978 and more than likely yellow wheels. As you say, though, Galway tends to have miserable road contitions and pretty dirty wheels so a dirty mustard would give a more  authentic look!! (only joking)
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Post  bmd Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:39 am

got this link from other forum, loads of pix, but was thrown by the thread title above the statos pix saying re.......76!..doh!! Embarassed Embarassed

http://www.rallyforums.com/forum/showthread.php?21658-Billy-Coleman-Galway-1976

many thanks sean for keeping me right...just need to go to local paint shop and ask for mustard yellow gloss!!! lol!! Rolling Eyes
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Post  brian Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:26 pm

Definately the 78 Galway rally.

Heres what I could get from the DVD. Since its old footage is hard to get a proper still but might help someway.

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Post  bmd Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:12 pm

gr8 stuff brian, many thanks for taking the time m8.....
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Post  RORY O CONNOR Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:25 pm

Car ran with a mix of wheels types and colours: 76 seems to be Gold Minilites mainly and 77/78 is a mix of yellow Chromodoras and Gold Minilites. I have seen pics with gold Miniltes on the front and Yellow Chromodoras on the rear.
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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:46 am

cheers rory.....yep will settle for gold wheels and i've decided on the 77 galway just to be awkward lol!! cant believe the several different paint/decal liveries he used on the car over a couple of years..... Rolling Eyes
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Post  RORY O CONNOR Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:33 am

Are you doing the Galway car in 1/18 or 1/43. I have some artwork done up for a 1/18 and the rally plates are very different to what Arena put out.
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Post  Juha Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:10 pm

That appears to be a regular problem with their stuff. I have a batch of Pirelli Statos decals, and they are either incomplete or wrong.

I built Tony Carello's Stratos from the 1978 Ypres 24 Hours with their decals, using a cheap partwork model as a base. He was seeded #4, but my decals say #1 (which is still visible on the bonnet plate). The text below the number is wrong, and the decal itself is too wide. There was a sticker where the red event plate is sitting, there's no decal for it, but it was removed during the rally so I could just cover it with a red decal. IIRC the rear spoiler is wrong too, I don't have the pics to check that, with just Pirelli instead of Lancia Pirelli, but again, no decals included, and I'm not sure about the second event actually plate being on the decal sheet.

I don't know how well they are documented on Italian events, but their research for foreign rallies is something they need to have a look at.

This is my model (car 4) Arena's own version (car 1) and the actual car.

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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:06 pm

thanks juha yeah it makes things difficult lol!!  Rolling Eyes

[i]Are you doing the Galway car in 1/18 or 1/43. I have some artwork done up for a 1/18 and the rally plates are very different to what Arena put out.
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rory its 1:18 m8, though ive found it hard to get pix of the actual car, now i'm wondering if mine is going to look right at all!! Rolling Eyes


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Post  RORY O CONNOR Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:42 pm

bmd wrote:Are you doing the Galway car in 1/18 or 1/43. I have some artwork done up for a 1/18 and the rally plates are very different to what Arena put out.

rory its 1:18 m8, though ive found it hard to get pix of the actual car, now i'm wondering if mine is going to look right at all!! Rolling Eyes

I have several pics of the 77 car and am using a Kyosho as a base. The decals are pretty straight forward compared to the 78 car with the blue pinstripes. The 77 car did not have have the flared arches on the rear.
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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:52 pm

aye m8 the blue pinstripes area bu__er to work with.....need to change rear arches as i'd done them all black, according to a photo i had, but it turms out the top of the arches should be left white..... i'm a bit concerned now as it seems theres a chance my decals are wrong..........ggrr!! Evil or Very Mad
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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:56 pm

right here's what im planning, although my wheels will be the 5-spokes.... are these decals right or wrong lads?

http://www.ewrc-models.com/image.php?id=9226
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Post  RORY O CONNOR Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:06 pm

Rally plate is wrong-Henley Forklift colour should be purple and missing some text. Don't think the blue stripes are there either.  Don't forget the Henley Forklift logo on the boot and there is a full sized rally plate on the roof too

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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:15 pm

ah rory brill m8, not sure what i have, will check tomorrow........ might be on the scrounge rory....... Embarassed

thanks for the pic in meantime tho... Smile
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Post  RORY O CONNOR Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:17 pm

I have more pics showing the front and bonnet
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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:21 pm

dont remember seeing a roof decal rory, plus i have the thin single blue line around the cabin...guess that needs removed....
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Post  RORY O CONNOR Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:25 pm

If you look at the pic above you can see it on the roof.
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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:27 pm

sorry m8 i meant on my decal sheet.........see it on your pic..... thanks rory
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Post  RORY O CONNOR Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:28 pm

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Post  bmd Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:33 pm

ah rory many thanks for those, right off comes the stripe lol!!
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